{"id":1271,"date":"2004-10-06T05:30:00","date_gmt":"2004-10-06T04:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/2004\/10\/06\/veep-debate\/"},"modified":"2015-06-19T00:25:54","modified_gmt":"2015-06-18T23:25:54","slug":"veep-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/2004\/10\/06\/veep-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"veep debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>a rare chance to watch the guy who actually runs the show argue with . . . somebody who probably won&#8217;t be doing very much except standing at the ready in case Kerry dies.<\/p>\n<p>Pretty much everything that came out of Cheney&#8217;s mouth was a lie, but he seemed to ebelive those lies.  They seemed credible.  Suddenly he was reminiscing about fighting &#8220;terrorism&#8221; (otherwise known as popular democratically-elected governments) in south america and he really beleived what he was saying, or seemed to.<br \/>\nCheney also seemed to be strongly opposed to the Federal anti-queer amendment (the one about not granting same sex couples rights that are given by god to opptosite sex couples, like britney speares and her latest match).  I mean, he seemed to really resent being put in the position of having to say that he supported the president.  After a long and meandering Edwards talk about how queers are somewhat icky but not 100%, Cheney replied only with thanking Edwards for his kind words about his family.  I was left with the distinct impression that Cheney might even <em>support<\/em> gay marriage.  If only he hadn&#8217;t said that people&#8217;s relationships aren&#8217;t anyone else&#8217;s business.  Um, yes.  It&#8217;s nobody&#8217;s buisiness. Keep it in the closet and everything will be fine.<br \/>\nEdwards got in  a couple of good points, for instance that Cheney opposed a bill calling on South Africa to free Nelson Mandela from jail, because Nelson Mandela was a terrorist.  Cheney&#8217;s anti-terrorism crusade has been going on for a long long time.  Anybody who opposes corporate interests is a terrorist, whether they&#8217;re a peasent farmer in South America, leading a strguggle for democracy in South Africa or blowing up large buildings in New York.  All morally equal.<br \/>\nAnd, Edwards is better matched to debate Bush.  Or to debate Dan Quale.  Or a trained chimp.  He&#8217;s not very smart, it&#8217;s sad to say.  I mean, he&#8217;s a member of mensa compared to the president.  But Cheney is a very smart man and a skillful debater and it&#8217;s so sad that he uses his powers for evil instead of for good.<br \/>\nThe moderater, an African American woman,  asked an interesting question about AIDS death rates in African American women, a question about racism and classicism in addressing the AIDS epidemic in the US.  And both candidates talked about Africa.  We&#8217;re supposed to forget that there&#8217;s AIDS in the US.  And if there is AIDS, only white fags have it.  And there&#8217;s wonderful medicine for that now.  Which is expenisive and isn&#8217;t covered for people on public assistance, but let&#8217;s talk about africa instead.  The candidates could not focus for two seconds on black women in the United States.<br \/>\nwell, to be fair, Edwards couldn&#8217;t focus for two seconds on anything.  He didn&#8217;t even seem to be sure what the question was half the time.  Maybe he could have used that pen he was holding to say, jot down the question, hm?<br \/>\nI really really hate the idea of voting for somebody who thinks i should be a second class citizen and that i deserve less rights than other people.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>a rare chance to watch the guy who actually runs the show argue with . . . somebody who probably won&#8217;t be doing very much except standing at the ready in case Kerry dies. Pretty much everything that came out of Cheney&#8217;s mouth was a lie, but he seemed to ebelive those lies. They seemed &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/2004\/10\/06\/veep-debate\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">veep debate<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":4,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1271","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorised"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1271","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1271"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1271\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3521,"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1271\/revisions\/3521"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1271"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1271"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.celesteh.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1271"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}