Live blog: Open Meeting of Pride London

We’re in the basement of city hall. The room is not very full. Most of the people here are white cis gay men. Everyone at the front appears to be white and not young.

Apparently, at the last meeting some people were thrown out by security, but this time only the chair can eject people.

The board is now introducing itself. The first guy does all the stuff. The woman finds sponsors. Social media. Treasurer. So most of the people deal with office stuff and one guy actually does the festival?

The chair says they are focused on the community. They got control of pride in 2012 and need to be self-financing by 2018. The chair is invoking Orlando. They have some successes. Good at advertising, bigger great, low crime rates, worked with black pride.

Subsidised walking places for NGOs. Did a hustings. Did a lgbt history month event. They are claiming they ran the Soho vigil after Orlando.

They did some survey on survey monkey. 90% of respondents were cis. Most were men. Mostly atheist. Hugely white. 74%

They got respondents through their social media presence. The sample was large.

People come to pride because they want to celebrate. A small number have come to make a statement. Many just come for the parade. Satisfaction with the parade was high.

Volunteers were helpful. Accessibility was lures good. Allies felt more represented in the parade then lesbians did.

People are happy to see corporate involvement.

The community engagement board has some vacancies. You must be a member and official representative of a community group. The board vets every group in the parade.

They’ve got a silver in accessibility and are trying to improve.

‘Pride’s got talent’ continues to grow. It was a ‘very professional’ final (of unpaid talent).

Pride in London has joined international pride organisations. There is now a UK pride organisers conference.

Pride’s got Talent will be split. They want to provide an umbrella for festival events. They will do something for history month and Idahobit.

They want to reach out to women and minority groups including trans people, bme people and young people.

307 groups in the parade.
Announcement podiums through the route.

Trafalgar square had done speakers. The red arrows flew overhead. (Doing great reachout to minority groups…)

Lgbt businesses got involved.

The us ambassador got emotional at the Orlando tribute.

Official after parties raised some funds.

Most volunteers were cis gay white men.

Income is going up. Costs are below income. Funding from the mayor will go down next year.

Most of the costs are on Trafalgar square. Then the parade, then Soho. Then the picnic.

Sponsorship grew this year, including gifts in kind. They got 7 new giant companies to give them stuff. They got money from gay businesses. They collected change etc from people. They will collect for a charity.

They want to diversify their funding. They have grown their fundraising team. Now they’re showing corporate logos.

The communications guy is now talking about good media coverage. Much of this was due to Orlando. The abfab involvement also helped.

Their research got a BBC news story.

They got coverage from a bunch of news outlets. Social media engagement has been high. A million page views. Lots of twitter followers. They have more followers than other pride campaigns. They have an app with lots of downloads.

The proposing bobby story got lots of coverage.

The campaign was #nofilter which was meant to refer to people in the closet. And as a call for people to celebrate the spirit of pride and authenticity.

This was a massive success, they say. They got some free ad agency support. This was the biggest pride campaign ever. They got on telly. They showed some trans couples. They got on MTV. They wanted more women, trans, bi and BME people in their ads. And they won some marketing adverts.

The marketing came in under budget.

They put up billboards on Westfield, put up some films. They took their hash tag nationally.

They are revealing the shocking news that not everyone is 100% out all the time.

Made an impact on the marketing industry. One of the trans people is a soldier. Which is very positive.

Their research indicated that looking at trans soldiers makes cis people more comfortable with trans people. As did the involvement of mainstream brands.

The sponsors were happy.

Now they’re taking questions:

Somebody is adding about the parade route.

They can’t afford to do the festival in a park.

Uk Black Pride wants to know how survey data will be used.

The community board uses it for their review. They want to figure out why black respondents are less satisfied with the event. The data is stated with sponsors and to improve pride, but is not sold. It is also used for their educational outreach.

Now there is a question about parks. The board member is taking about all the parks.

Now somebody is taking about security. The board member is taking about volunteer training.

What happens when the 5 year mandate has been met? The mayor is very committed to pride.

Will pride ever have paid tickets? They want to keep the event as free as possible, so they ask for suggested donations. There is no plan to have paid tickets. They are committed to appropriate crowd control.

What about emergency services in pride? The emergency services are an important part of the city. We are very grateful to emergency services and want them to be part of it.

The 2017 date will be confirmed imminently.

The lgbt cons want to know why political groups are placed at the back of the parade. The board wants every group on the parade to be respected. They try to avoid putting groups next to each other that won’t get along.

Jo is asking also about politics at the back and also about individuals who want to march outside of a group.

The board days they were concerned about health and safety in light of Orlando. If everyone who was concerned about Orlando had marched, it would have brought central London to a standstill. They need to pay for stewarding, which means supporting paid groups first.

Somebody who wants biodegradable confetti cannons on Twitter. They are expensive to clean up.

Somebody wants to know the relationship between the picnic and black pride. Could the parade be as diverse as black pride? Also why was the sound system so crap at the black stage?

There was some poor communication around staging.

The trans representative from the CAB is happy there were more trans people than previously and how will the board increase trans participation? The board member is keen to help on trans stuff and also to speak over the trans representative. They only have so much budget. They want to have a trans cafe, but need to make collective decisions. Their sponsors are really great for trans visibility and we can learn from our sponsors. There are a lot of vacancies and they want trans volunteers.

The document liberation project

The project: they believe documents and contents belong to their creators, not software vendors. Open and free standards are required to achieve long term accessibility of data. Until vendors support open standards, open source must support closed formats.

Their mission is to figure out how to extract data from closed formats. They will read closed files, but not generate them. The are part of the open document format ecosystem.

These guys have a lot of libraries for parsing. And some generator libraries. They generate text files and some image files. And some introspection tools.

American fuzzy lop prevents the system from crashing on badly formatted files.

Updates on the project: more formats are supported. Many more formats.

They deal with a very wide variety of types of formats.

They are accepting code. Or you can try to decipher formats. Or you can generate documents.


What about DRM?

They scrupulously follow the law

What about stitching projects?

Sort of.

Color hug plus

He makes something called the color hug, which is a device that does a spectrograph.

Displays are now very different to each other. Mobile phones show advertising really well, but are crap with your photos.

Other devices are either closed source or unsuitable for displays.

The color hug plus is the third version. It will illuminate stuff, so you can measure paper.

This is a hobby for him.

The hardware and software are both open source.

Teaching design libre in the global south

By Renata Ribero

She is located at a university on the countryside in Brazil. Universities moved to rural areas to promote sustainable development. Many of the students are from large cities on Brazil. 10%are African.

The uni was founded in 2006. She is on the digital design course, which is new. They are doing Moodle development.

They use free software for student projects. Work is hosted on the uni website.

The students went on a visit at the local hacker space for a project showcase. Students are collaborating with the hacker space now. This have the students ideas as well.

The kids prefer free software now.

Students decided their projects should reflect the community. Some of their work was about how they might do startups. Now they are working on websites and branding.

Only a tiny minority thought unis should only free software, but the vast majority more think floss is really important. More than 70%think it’s important to contribute to floss development.

They want to learn concepts more than tools.


Will this experiment continue? Was language an issue in tutorials and documentation?

The language barrier is an issue. They all want to learn English, bit it’s not taught in state schools, so they’re just starting. Students are also z seeking a regional identity when joining user communities. They are now doing peer learning groups, which is helpful.

Participatory Design & Floss: How can co-design work with libre graphics

By Paula Graham and Lisa Haskell

Fossbox is more about participatory design than libre graphics.

Fossbox seeks to change the world through technology. They ran Flossie, which taught a lot about working with diversity, which is important working with end users.

Ux design is core for teaching end users. It’s important to work with end users to discover what they need. If code is poetry, interface is interactive art.

Fossbox stated out doing floss advocacy with NGOs and community groups. They found that free software and arts groups get on well, but diverse groups had some political friction. This is partly a clash between libertarian floss and socialist NGOs.

Some political decisions undertaken by developers are not well communicated to end users, who may disagree with them.

You must meet users on their own terms. Flexibility is important. Compromise is necessary. This may mean, say, recording to non-free formats.

Users may expect undeliverable things, so that has to be communicated.

Be prepared to shift your paradigm.

Developers must collaborate with designers.

Working with a community is a project. Be aware of scope creep.


Why is ‘agile’ too techy?

Fossbox collaborated over 3 years with a disability organisation in East London. Most workers do front line work.  Agile methods of users stories and springs didn’t help communicate with users. The users were support busy and they approached them on their own terms.

Q: I don’t think floss is a libertarian monoculture!

Globally, floss is extremely diverse. In Anglo-American it is libertarian. Floss developers have free time and education and are privileged in every culture. In Anglo-American culture, this means white men. Floss is profoundly  homosocial and in order to include women, changes must be made.

Q: Don’t put me in a box!

Owning the means of production, is good. People should own the technology that shaped their lives. But ai algorithms are enormously complex. To own that technology, is need a lot of kit and skill, unless we change our understanding of ownership to one of democracy. How do we deal with citizen, user control of enormously complex systems otherwise?

The future is a site where you can watch people write code live. Like write a text editor. Because this is what’s entertaining in the 21st century. It’s meant to be educational.

It is also apparently only men.

Breathing code is another public coding platform. Or a conference, rather. Or something that lost money.

FARM workshop on functional art, music, modeling and design was a success.

TopLap is or was a fun community. It needs more participation.

Computational literacy. Chris Hancock in 2003 wrote real-time programming and the big ideas of computational literacy. It emphasises experience. Real time code makes for real time interaction.

Here is a slide showing a continuum between bodies and theories. Live coding is somewhere in the middle. Action thinking with live coding.

What next?

Q: are performances meant to be an academic or  scientific exercise or how should it be curated?

Maybe instead of a conceptual frame work instead a description of the kind of output or environment?

For an academic conference, things should have some novelty.

Things could be partly open call and partly curated. Curators need to be somewhat neutral.

Dance music is interesting and can be rigorous, or is that even a valuable thing to aspire to?

Livecode.TV is not an open platform.  We could take live streaming out to the wild. Interact with normal people.

Which performances should be public?

What about other at forms?

Could there be some youth outreach in the next conference?

Kids algorave or some such

Algorave school dances

Trying to avoid product oriented output.


Collaboratively live coding SuperCollider through the cloud.

Remotely located synchronous interaction. People use Dagstuhl, Gibber, etc.

SuperCopair uses it allows you to remotely collaboratively edit a document. They used the pusher. com cloud service.

Pusher cloud service uses push data. Sending a character is avg 230ms from San Palo to Ann Arbor.

It is easy to setup. No sync in clock.

You can run code locally or globally or remotely (only).

They’ve added permission control.

Users tend to want to  collaboratively fix bugs.

This package is available in

Live coding as a part of a free improv orchestra by Antonio Goulart and Miguel Antar

He is doing only code and not processing other people.

He does no breast tracking. Joe to communicate well with other improvisers. They try to be non idiomatic.

Performers should be able to play together based only on sound with no knowledge of other instruments. They try to play without memory.

Acoustic instruments are immediate, but live coding has lag, which provides opportunity to create future sounds.

He didn’t used to project code, so as to not grab to much attention. But the free imprison acoustics guys Jammed More together, so he thought screen showing would help people play more together.

This did help, and does not distract audiences, so they kept it.

It turns out that some knowledge of each others instruments is needed to play well together. Should instrumentalists learn a bit of code to play with live coders? Or is that too much to ask? Would it be too distracting when they’re trying to play?

There is a discussion about projection in the question section….

Extramuros: a browser coding thingee by David Ogborn et al

Uses, which he says is duct tape for network music.

It supports distributed ensembles and has language neutrality. Server client model.

Browser interface, piped to language from server.

It is aesthetically austere.

There have been several performances.

It is also useful for projecting ensembles live code. And for screen sharing. And for doing workshops with low configuration. (He says no configuration)

Running this means giving access to a high priority running thread on your machine…

Future work: it allows for JavaScript and osc right now. They want to do event visualisation. There are synchronisation issues. Phasing is an issue. What about stochastic stuff? When people write unpredictable, untimed code, unpredictable, untimed things happen. Apparently this is bad.

We are being made to participate. In tidal.

Live writing: asynchronous live coding

People collaborating can be Co located out distant, synchronous or asynchronous.

Asynchronous live coding is a thing, like sending code over email. There are ways to communicate etc. Open form scores, static code, screen cast, audio recording

Music notation is meant to allow this. He says live coding is improvised or composed on real time. So how to archive performances or rehearsals.

Studio can be recorded or there are symbolic recordings, like code or notation. Code and notation are not equivalent. In traditional music, midi files are between the recording and the score. it has time stamps etc.

What is the equivalent of a midi file for live coders?

He’s showing Gibber in a web browser. It records his keystrokes with time stamps, saves it to a server, and can be played back.

There are other systems like this, like threnoscope by Magnusson.

Show us your screens. Happens outside of live coding. Game streaming. Programmer streaming for not live coding.

Writing as music performance. Write a poem, sonority the typing and do stuff based on character content.

Written communication is asynchronous. Recording keystrokes can make writing into a real time experience. Or reading. Or whatever.

As there is no sense of audience, the experience is the same as non live writing. The trading experience is really different, though.